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Post by leeknight on Nov 9, 2012 9:25:16 GMT -5
Bonjour! This time next week I will be sitting out in the cold drinking coffee, enjoying mid-November in Paris! Reading, girl watching while trying not to get caught peeking. Smoking too much, going to jazz clubs and drinking too much. Winking at the Mona Lisa. Bee, please make plans for FIT coverage next week? Thanks. Post 'em amis pour toujours! ___________ Hey! Ain't no crime writing one really good song. Where did the negative connotation of "one hit wonder" come from? How many hits have YOU had? One less than these guys. That's how many!  I heard this song when it came out in '98. I remember thinking, "Fantastic! I've got a new favorite group. Clever storyline, humor, irresistible chord changes and melodies, hip classic pop references." I bought the album and... well, The Way is a great song. So I toast Fastball and the fact that it DID all come together for them in a very real way... for at least one song. That's one more than it has for me. Oh... and where WERE they going without ever knowing the way? |
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Post by rsadasiv on Nov 9, 2012 9:34:54 GMT -5
Bonnes vacanses!
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Post by rsadasiv on Nov 9, 2012 9:36:57 GMT -5
Always loved the bridge on this.
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Post by leeknight on Nov 9, 2012 9:40:31 GMT -5
I love the whole sound and vibe of that ^^^ track. Like a more intimate All Things Must Pass.
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Post by oswlek on Nov 9, 2012 9:55:14 GMT -5
My friend and I used to chuckle about "The Way" and how it sounded just like this song:
We always wondered how many hits could be made just by rewriting obscure Beatles' tunes. ;D
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Post by oswlek on Nov 9, 2012 10:03:26 GMT -5
As far as rip-offs go, I'm blown away that no one has called Finger Eleven on this blatant theft.
Shit, they stole the chorus melody note for note, right down to yelling the point of emphasis.
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Post by leeknight on Nov 9, 2012 10:08:42 GMT -5
Ah! Ripoffs! Actually quite a few on the Yoshimi album... but I love it too much and end up loving the lifts. They lift Neil Young and here... Cat Steven's Father and Son. But I don't care, I just wanna make sure Yoshimi is OK...
by the way, the big question about Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots? The answer is, she has cancer.
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Post by oswlek on Nov 9, 2012 10:14:03 GMT -5
I don't mind stealing from other songs at all. Hell, when tracking I often find comparable songs and borrow from their arranging - usually only the concept, but sometimes even more - but when the entire song is a so blatantly copped it amuses me. "The Way" isn't nearly as bad as "Paralyzer".
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Post by leeknight on Nov 9, 2012 10:17:21 GMT -5
I don't see any issue with Besame Mucho/The Way. Of course it is clear they did lift it, but I really like the differences a LOT.
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 9, 2012 10:25:20 GMT -5
I too was caught off guard by how good that Fastball song was. I was expecting them to produce more good stuff, but alas... My friend and I used to chuckle about "The Way" and how it sounded just like this song: We always wondered how many hits could be made just by rewriting obscure Beatles' tunes. ;D "Besame Mucho" was written by a Mexican concert pianist & songwriter named Consuelo Velazquez. She says she wrote it when she was very young, before she'd ever been kissed! It was a hit for Jimmy Dorsey's band that same year, with an English lyric. She based the melody on this tune: |
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 9, 2012 10:29:17 GMT -5
Speaking of one-hit wonders...
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 9, 2012 10:30:32 GMT -5
... and from 1966 ...
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Post by rsadasiv on Nov 9, 2012 10:59:27 GMT -5
Too much coke onstage, and Jimmy Page is totally out of it, but still a great song.
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 9, 2012 11:41:28 GMT -5
The bridge on "The Way" has been bugging me. I like it, but like the rest of the tune it sounds suspiciously familiar.
Then it hit me:
It's mainly the rhythm of each song that sounds alike.
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Post by leeknight on Nov 9, 2012 11:48:59 GMT -5
This really isn't music related... and yet I find it totally inspiring...  |
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 9, 2012 15:04:08 GMT -5
This really isn't music related... and yet I find it totally inspiring... Yeah, "inspiring..." By the way, bon voyage next week! "The loveliness of Paris seems somehow sadly gay. The glory that was Rome was of another day. I've been terribly alone and forgotten in Manhattan. I'm going to my city by the bay... I left my heart in San Diego..." |
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Post by blue2blue on Nov 9, 2012 16:45:30 GMT -5
The ever-quirky Kat Edmonson doing one of NPR's "Tiny Desk Concerts"...
What I really wanted to post was the queue-shuffle happy accident I experienced this a.m. when the Beach Boy's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" got me to thinking about how much that song irritated me back in the day and how outdated and preachy it felt to me then.
To my great amusement, the very next song was Kat Edmonson doing Wilson's "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" in a slow, melancholy, drifting sort of fashion.
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Post by oldgitplayer on Nov 9, 2012 18:19:58 GMT -5
For Mr Knight - to get him in a Paris frame of mind
She writes and sings it beautifully in both languages
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 9, 2012 18:22:48 GMT -5
the very next song was Kat Edmonson doing Wilson's "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" in a slow, melancholy, drifting sort of fashion. There's a version of her doing that song on Youtube, but the sound quality blows. Meanwhile, I've always been partial to this version: A (mostly) a cappella version of "Wouldn't It Be Nice." |
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Post by rsadasiv on Nov 9, 2012 20:30:54 GMT -5
Not on YouTube, but the new Van Morrison album sounds great.
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Post by monkeyuncle on Nov 10, 2012 6:23:09 GMT -5
I've been hearing that song on oldies radio for at least 30 years, but I never knew who performed it. And now that I know, I still don't know who they are. I guess that sort of defines a one-hit wonder! But it is a great song. |
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 10, 2012 10:51:14 GMT -5
Influences? Cole Porter, whom Michael Feinstein says is a second-rate songwriter... (?)
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Post by leeknight on Nov 10, 2012 11:10:29 GMT -5
The ever-quirky Kat Edmonson doing one of NPR's "Tiny Desk Concerts"... What I really wanted to post was the queue-shuffle happy accident I experienced this a.m. when the Beach Boy's "Wouldn't It Be Nice" got me to thinking about how much that song irritated me back in the day and how outdated and preachy it felt to me then. To my great amusement, the very next song was Kat Edmonson doing Wilson's "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" in a slow, melancholy, drifting sort of fashion. Gosh... I'm smitten again. She is really something. |
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Post by leeknight on Nov 10, 2012 11:16:38 GMT -5
Lee... that Penn/Mann version of These Times is great. Nice find.
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 10, 2012 11:45:33 GMT -5
Lee... that Penn/Mann version of These Times is great. Nice find. It's from a Brian Wilson tribute from about 10 years ago. Here's another clip from that same night, Vince Gill singing "The Warmth of the Sun." (the good stuff starts after 1:05). |
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Post by leeknight on Nov 10, 2012 11:54:47 GMT -5
^^^ oh man...
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Post by mrkelley on Nov 11, 2012 1:42:52 GMT -5
If you're gonna be a one-hit wonder, this is the way to do it... Or this... |
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Post by leeknight on Nov 11, 2012 11:29:02 GMT -5
I've been immersing myself into the world of modern folk rock lately. And while it contains lots of hipper than thou pretensions, the right beard, the just right wrong shirt, the correct guitar... I get how style is an important part of pop music, whether we admit it or not. So, my station of choice is a digital music channel I get through my Direct TV subscription. It had the clever channel name of... FOLK.
But whoever is putting the playlist together has my blessings and I would love an evening drinking beer and talking tunes with them.
Billy Bragg, Little Hurricane, Pete Seeger, Fleet Foxes, Father John Misty, The Byrds, Grizzly Bear, The Tallest Man on Earth, K T Tundstal...
Now, one thing I hear that I just love SO MUCH with the modern breed of folk rockers, is this tapping of early pop. Spring reverbs, chambers, cool string and orch effects, faux studio back up singers. Really cool pop lifts. These guys are after my heart.
So, in the midst of all this hip referencing they play an old track, one I've never liked at all, I just never did, arggh...
...until today. It all fell into place for me. I get it, the folk raping the pop orchestra. I LOVE IT!!!! And of course, Lee Hazlewood is about as "folk" as Bobby Darin with a medallion, stool and gut sting guitar, and Nancy? Nothing spells folk like S-I-N-A-T-R-A! And yet, this marriage of pop production and arrangement, with a clear to me now folk sensibility, I absolutely dig it. When it's done, no clapping please, snapping only...
From ^that^ you get this...
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